Here's my Cliffs Notes version of the NY Times article on Hobbs vs Lake referenced here. Hobbs: soft spoken, not a strong campaigner, blew it on the Talonya Adams thing, emphasis on being a strong supporter of reproductive rights. Lake: big-rally campaigner, experienced media person, for abortion bans, says the 2020 election was stolen. For the most part, on substance, Hobbs is more in line with voters; on presentation, Lake is better at getting attention. I know it's generally not smart to bet on content over form, but one can always hope.
True. After reading the NYT article, I thought the Agenda presented a harsher view than appropriate about how Hobbs has been doing (though I admit she's a flawed candidate). But in comparison to the utterly unqualified Lake (no leadership experience or skills, no government experience), I get concerned that Hobbs might get unnecessarily "Frankenized" much to Arizona's loss and regret.
“...program will likely be one of Gov. Doug Ducey’s most lasting policies, even if we’ll never know how most voters feel about it.” Sure we will. Voters can choose whether to retain or bounce legislators who support an ESA expansion.
Sure. But a straightforward yes or no question on a single issue is much different than voting for a candidate, where lots of issues weigh into voters’ decisions.
The vouchers can be cut back and rescinded after a while. A tax break for the rich can always be temporary without too much backlash from the majority of voters. Read Robb and love to disagree with much of what he says. He’s a good guy. Congratulations on being the BEST! They got that one right.
"An up or down vote on universal vouchers would have given us a real data point on how voters feel — at this moment — about Ducey’s plans to push Arizona to the outer limits of school choice at a cost to public schools."
Who cares????
Voters kept Blacks in slavery for 65 years in the 19th century and felt that it was the natural and normal state of affairs.
Now, voters across the nation act to trap minorities in schools that don't serve them well.
Nationwide, the parents of 5 million students rated their child's district school a "D" or "F". Do those parents deserve a chance to pick a better school? You are darn right they deserve that chance.
Nationwide, millions of students in district schools score lower on norm reference tests than they did the year before, negative academic progress!!!! Do those parents deserve the right to chose a better school???
Minorities fall further behind whites every day they spend in district schools. Should their parents be able to attempt to find a place that can do better????
The ESA vision for our school system is that every teacher is among the best in the world because every student has more than 20 other oustanding schools they could attend.
The Save Our Schools vision for our schools is that the worst teacher in Arizona is entitled to a full classroom.
Contrary to the swill in our media, our students rank high nationally. The National Assessment of Educational Progress is the gold standard for comparing state outcomes. In 8th grade math, AZ Blacks rank 3rd a point behind Blacks in two other states. AZ Asians rank 5th, AZ whites rank 6th and Hispanics rank 14th.
And, its not just math scores. As parents look over the entire realm of district school offerings, they approve. 72% of Chandler Unified parents rate their child's school an "A". The Mesa district has similar numbers. This compares with Gallup's last national survey where 26% of parents rated their child's school an "A", a 47 year low.
Even Tucson Unified, one of the worst districts in the state has a higher than national rating by parents.
The biggest beneficiaries of school choice are the most at-risk students. In Pennsylvania, the parents of 165 special needs students are suing their district for inadequate services. AZ? 2 lawsuits!!! two!!!
Bedbugs???? Comparing something so beneficial to bedbugs??? Not good. You would have been the ones talking about the problems with freeing the slaves.
Here's my Cliffs Notes version of the NY Times article on Hobbs vs Lake referenced here. Hobbs: soft spoken, not a strong campaigner, blew it on the Talonya Adams thing, emphasis on being a strong supporter of reproductive rights. Lake: big-rally campaigner, experienced media person, for abortion bans, says the 2020 election was stolen. For the most part, on substance, Hobbs is more in line with voters; on presentation, Lake is better at getting attention. I know it's generally not smart to bet on content over form, but one can always hope.
True. After reading the NYT article, I thought the Agenda presented a harsher view than appropriate about how Hobbs has been doing (though I admit she's a flawed candidate). But in comparison to the utterly unqualified Lake (no leadership experience or skills, no government experience), I get concerned that Hobbs might get unnecessarily "Frankenized" much to Arizona's loss and regret.
“...program will likely be one of Gov. Doug Ducey’s most lasting policies, even if we’ll never know how most voters feel about it.” Sure we will. Voters can choose whether to retain or bounce legislators who support an ESA expansion.
Sure. But a straightforward yes or no question on a single issue is much different than voting for a candidate, where lots of issues weigh into voters’ decisions.
That’s true. I’d also argue that’s a feature of our system, not a bug.
True. Voters don’t always get that.
The vouchers can be cut back and rescinded after a while. A tax break for the rich can always be temporary without too much backlash from the majority of voters. Read Robb and love to disagree with much of what he says. He’s a good guy. Congratulations on being the BEST! They got that one right.
"An up or down vote on universal vouchers would have given us a real data point on how voters feel — at this moment — about Ducey’s plans to push Arizona to the outer limits of school choice at a cost to public schools."
Who cares????
Voters kept Blacks in slavery for 65 years in the 19th century and felt that it was the natural and normal state of affairs.
Now, voters across the nation act to trap minorities in schools that don't serve them well.
Nationwide, the parents of 5 million students rated their child's district school a "D" or "F". Do those parents deserve a chance to pick a better school? You are darn right they deserve that chance.
Nationwide, millions of students in district schools score lower on norm reference tests than they did the year before, negative academic progress!!!! Do those parents deserve the right to chose a better school???
Minorities fall further behind whites every day they spend in district schools. Should their parents be able to attempt to find a place that can do better????
The ESA vision for our school system is that every teacher is among the best in the world because every student has more than 20 other oustanding schools they could attend.
The Save Our Schools vision for our schools is that the worst teacher in Arizona is entitled to a full classroom.
Contrary to the swill in our media, our students rank high nationally. The National Assessment of Educational Progress is the gold standard for comparing state outcomes. In 8th grade math, AZ Blacks rank 3rd a point behind Blacks in two other states. AZ Asians rank 5th, AZ whites rank 6th and Hispanics rank 14th.
And, its not just math scores. As parents look over the entire realm of district school offerings, they approve. 72% of Chandler Unified parents rate their child's school an "A". The Mesa district has similar numbers. This compares with Gallup's last national survey where 26% of parents rated their child's school an "A", a 47 year low.
Even Tucson Unified, one of the worst districts in the state has a higher than national rating by parents.
The biggest beneficiaries of school choice are the most at-risk students. In Pennsylvania, the parents of 165 special needs students are suing their district for inadequate services. AZ? 2 lawsuits!!! two!!!
Bedbugs???? Comparing something so beneficial to bedbugs??? Not good. You would have been the ones talking about the problems with freeing the slaves.