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Sarah Bihms's avatar

This is heartbreaking but a completely understandable reaction. Allies: now is the moment to kick up our activism. Show our brothers/sisters/siblings how much they mean to us 💜

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Patricia Price's avatar

Thank all of you for your honesty and your courage. I too have showed up at the capitol as an advocate for public schools and found legislative bullies intimidating and rock solid in their bigotry.

Keep the faith and make change where change is possible.

Patricia Price

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Douglas J. Wolf's avatar

The trans community overplayed their hand. Except for the extreme religious right, conservatives in general have a live and let live attitude about sexual identity. But then, men started taking opportunity away from our daughters in sports, went wacko with the pronoun fad, and pushed drag queens into under 18 venues. Last, the insanity of having children who cannot get a driver's license undergo life changing surgery was and is too much. The pushback was inevitable and should have been factored in to their activism. Finally, we on the right will always tolerate good citizens who we might see as deviant, but we refuse to accept or accommodate their plight.

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defective dynast's avatar

in what way do you "tolerate" people who you refuse to identify correctly and call "wacko" and "deviant"? what exactly is tolerance in your mind? the notion that conservatives in this country are live and let live about sexual identity is not borne out by our rich history of laws against interracial marriage, gay marriage, consensual sexual activity, and on and on. you should be ashamed and instead you're patting yourself on the back, and for what? refusing to "accept or accommodate" people who are asking that you just leave them the hell alone? get bent.

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James Giel's avatar

"When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression." The GOP is afraid of anyone who doesn't fit into their narrow box of "normal" and the repeated use of slurs to describe folks is really you telling on yourself. We see you.

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Douglas J. Wolf's avatar

I glad you see me. Keep looking you will see truth.

This from a guy(?) from a 95% white, privileged law firm.

If 99.999% of a population is X and the other .00001 is Y, that is by definition deviance and not a slur, just a fact.

That is why I push back on radical nonsense disguised as virtue signaling.

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James Giel's avatar

I'm privileged to have been born a white cis-gender male in the U.S. for sure, but it doesn't mean I can't identify intolerance in our society and work toward equality for all. BTW - I grew up in HUD housing and worked my way through community college, ASU, and a state law school, so I certainly wasn't "privileged" in the way you're implying by pointing out that I work at a law firm.

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Douglas J. Wolf's avatar

Then you are virtue signaling OK, just admit it. I wrote and I repeat, tolerance is ok with conservatives unless it goes the way of abusing children. How can not see that. An 18 year old can do what they want, but parents and the medical community foisting their Leftist social constructs on their likely mentally ill children is criminal.

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Carolyn's avatar

I always appreciate your views but, (of course) you’re way off here. The AIA had a policy for the very few trans teenagers that wanted to play high school sports until conservative parents made a fuss. (Boys and girls are very similar in competitive up until puberty.)That’s when individual cases need to be looked at and they were. Quietly, and with dignity. Pronouns, use them or not, nobody was forcing anyone, get over it. As a child my parents took me to see “Some Like it Hot” (look it up, old movie) great. Parents can choose to take their kids or not. to see drag story hour. Parental control only applies t if it is what the right’s policy seems to be. Liberals aren’t banning books. I keep hearing about U18 kids getting these surgeries. I need facts and stats. Thank you for bringing up all these issues. It’s important to hear from both sides.

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Douglas J. Wolf's avatar

Only one male in a women's sport is too many and a civil right violation-called Title IX. As to the pronouns, when government forces me to call a man "she" that is over the line and was happening. Here is the data in children as guinea pigs. https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-transyouth-data/

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Carolyn's avatar

Wow! The world according to DJW.

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Douglas J. Wolf's avatar

It's common sense and frankly, there is too little of it in government and our culture.

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Carolyn's avatar

Common sense says don’t run into the fire, hero’s do it to save others. Common sense says don’t insult others. How are you going to tell if a person is trans or gay? You must have a cape and steel trap mind to make that call. Do you know a trans person? Their journey. Before you judge. That’s common sense. Love and kindness is never wrong in life’s journey.

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Douglas J. Wolf's avatar

Who decides what constitutes an "insult" you? The government? People have the right to be frank and rude if that hurts somebody's feelings, oh boo-hoo.

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Carolyn's avatar

Now your just trolling. Boo-hoo

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Carolyn's avatar

When right wing Republicans decided to go after trans people it was a bad day for America and the world. It helped Donald Trump win the presidency. Couldn’t watch a football game last fall without commercials disparaging the trans community. My best research shows that out of 330m Americans, less that 1m are trans. They can follow this since, like, patients that have transplants, trans people must continually take medicine for hormone replacement. Before Republicans found this so distasteful and harmful to society the disparaged gay people until it became unpopular. Trans was an easy next mark.Do men know that women’s restrooms and locker rooms have stalls with doors? We don’t need protection from those who only use urinals.

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